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11:18 pm
Case Contributor
May 10, 2012
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QuoteGoogle Earth
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Recently I got a new coputer that had Google Earth on it. I have
been amazed at what I can look at around the world.
I have been exploring the
Mason City area the last few days with it. It is so detailed and you can look
over hedges and hills. Combine with that the places I have gone and taken
pictures of it can make become a tool to search.
Add to it the pictures I
have on flickr of the area, it makes it interesting.
One picture stood out
for me last night. It is the abandon farm site. In the picture it is
completely cleared off, but the ground has a unique pattern to it. If you have
Google Earth go to Buchnel and then go west to Kildeer, then south to the dirt
spot in the corn field. See what you think!
Psychics... look and search and
let us know if any new vibs appear. You can always email me at muskgrove333@yahoo.com
Man oh man, things sure have changed
in the tech world since 1995.
12:53 pm
Case Contributor
November 13, 2012
OfflineI have never subscribed to the thought that Jodi was placed in a body of water. Who ever abducted and killed her did not want the body to ever be found and water is a temporary disposal at best. Their are some people in NI who have a history of burying things and others who really may have known the area very well to bury something to the point that it would NEVER be discovered. Just my thoughts. As to the area that you are talking about Muskgrove, I think that is within a couple of miles of where some other people were found, is that correct?
3:49 pm
Case Contributor
May 10, 2012
OfflineYes it is. In fact Terry one of the men going to testify against Dustin Honkin was buried at that site. He was buried just west of the cyclo. The other man and his girl friend and her 2 daughters were buried on Lark Avenue less than a mile now from the New Sheriffs and north of the salvage yard. I would lay only a few miles from each other. They were only found when someone drew a map of their graves.
8:40 pm
Case Contributor
November 13, 2012
OfflineMy guess is another map is eventually drawn but not until ALL other hope is gone and someone has a date with death themselves.
8:06 pm
I agree with Big Poppi in that she was buried - not placed in a body of water. I spent my entire childhood scouring North Iowa fishing, hunting, etc. I believe that she would have been stumbled upon if she was simply placed in the woods. I also believe that there would have been a find if she was placed in water. One thing that I think is very important is that I believe that the killer did not want to get wet in case someone was to see him after hiding the body. Remember: Cornseed was spotted that same morning around 7 AM? Most of the area quarries aren't steep drop off quarries like the Martin Marrieta pits. Pits such as the Torkelson Pits and Kuennan Pits were sand pits and have very slight drop offs. They would require whoever hiding the body to get in the water in order to get it deep enough. That leaves a select few pits in the area with direct access to deep water (Portland Pits, Martin Marrieta, <insert a few others here>). Big Blue and I believe Martin Marrieta were dove after her disappearance. I'm not sure about the Portland Pits.
I believe that the killer drove 5-10 miles and found a maintenance/utility/farm road or a small hunting preserve area parking area. I believe that the area would be near a grove of trees or a wooded area about 100 feet off the road or parking area. I also believe that it's not near water. I wonder how much I could dig in an hour, but I would be safe to say that I could bury a body at least 2 feet under the soil in that amount of time and cover it up to blend in. Let's say that the crime was committed at around 4:20. By 4:30 the killer was on the road. 4:52 the killer finds a suitable place and pulls off. By 5:00 AM the killer has moved the body to the area and started digging. By 5:50 AM the killer is finishing up work. By 6:00 AM the killer is well on his way back to Mason City to make a meeting time with another person. By 6:25 the killer is back at his house to clean up and is out of the house at 6:50 for the meeting. Tight timeline for sure, but possible if you are hauling ass. I can understand why a few investigators believed she was dumped in one of the small ponds on the north end - because of the tight timeline. But I believe that he wasted no time and got it done fast and efficiently. Many people state that he's extremely lucky. I don't call it lucky. I used to deliver newspapers around the area and prior to 6:45 there is hardly any movement in town, let alone outside of town. Sometimes I would only see one person leaving for work prior to 7:00 and most of my customers didn't wake until around or after 7:00. He simply committed a viscous murder, hauled ass and got back to try to cover his ass. Unfortunately MCPD was unable to search good enough to find the area where she was buried.
11:15 pm
Case Contributor
November 13, 2012
OfflineI totally agree with everything from the previous post. I think LE does too.
10:45 am
Case Contributor
March 31, 2012
OfflineI guess is that she was placed in one of those big culverts that go under the road out in a desolate area and then the murderer came back later after he'd prepared a spot or came up with a plan.
I read a post about one of those incinerators on the chicken/pig barns. I believe that to be a quick and easy disposing location. The Smell would be bad and who would actually look inside before they started the process of incinerating.
If the murderer has since left town and cleaned up his life of any drug use which he may have been involved in, it could be easier for them to live with their guilt as their way of healing and cleansing and Putting their illegal drug induced past behind them. Fears, anxiety, or suspicious behavior could be looked as detoxing to anyone close to him or around him at that time.
The murderer may have been tasked with shutting her up and/or keeping her in check, she may have been getting out of hand. I.e becoming curious about the drug activity around the area at the time...
In my opinion there are 3 kind of people: 1. Users, and those who know the other users around them. 2. Those who have used, and are suspicious of others, trying to figure out who is using. Or 3. The Oblivious, Naive, UN-suspicious, unaware or signs symptoms and behavior of drug use. Meth was huge in that area at that time. Pretty open in the bars too. It was like everyone was doing it.
Meth causes obsessive, controlling behavior...you can dwell and tweek over a person or thing, even SNAP to gain control
7:06 pm
Case Contributor
March 22, 2012
OfflineThe incinerator is a really good theory. My prime suspect likely traveled around the countryside for his job, so he would probably know where the incinerators were.
I also found Florida's post fascinating. The timeline is well laid out and it made me realize that someone who had a lot of adrenaline pumping through his system, someone unusually strong, might have had the ability to dispose of Jodi in exactly the way Florida suggests. I think that, while those of us who are law abiding would be flummoxed if faced with the task of disposing of a body, this guy was quick on his feet, literally and figuratively, because he is a practiced criminal and used to hiding the evidence of his deeds.
However, I wonder about a couple of things from both Summer and Florida's posts. I'm wondering about scavenger animals, namely dogs. I grew up out in a wooded area outside the Mason City limits. Our pets routinely dragged home carcasses and not just small animals, but deer and cow size torsos. There's no leash law in the country and lots of animals roam completely free. If Jodi's abductor/killer had to bury her quickly, he probably wouldn't have had time to put her six feet under. The way I understand it, bodies start to bloat after a couple days and "float" closer to the surface. Yet no trace of Jodi has been found.
Of course, Terry DeGeus, one of Dustin Honken's former dealers, was buried in a "shallow grave" according to court records and his grave wasn't disturbed by animals.
Both posts also made me think outside the water theory and reconsider about other possible places where Jodi could have been hidden. A rumor used to go around Nora Springs that she was under the driveway of one of the new homes on the northwest side of town. Nora Springs is about 15 minutes one way from Mason City, so it's within the timeline that Florida laid out. Again, because of his job, the killer might have known about new construction sites.
Great posts! Lots to think about.
7:47 pm
Case Contributor
March 21, 2012
OfflineGreat theory posts!! Keep them rolling....Muskgrove, I've e-mailed You and am wondering if the Pic. # 1807 in Your Flicker pages ( Abandon Farmsite ) are what You are talking about here?
2:10 pm
Case Follower
December 5, 2012
OfflineI am of the opine that under a driveway would be tough. For one thing the prep to get driveway ready is a challenge. Under just driveway pavement if done correctly you have to dig out of the earth at least 1 foot of soil. According to the implement being used you could have an additional 5 or 6 inches to account for the teeth of the digging apparatus . Plus if it were fresh you would have a smell of decomposing flesh.I think that by now if the grave was shallow you would be able to see a depression because of the compaction of the soil.
I have never been to the area so I do not know the surroundings of the area.
May I explain something to all of you. My father was murdered and my uncle was shot but survived in the same incident. I know what the family in some respects went through. Finding Ms Huisentruit and returning her to family would give them someone they loved and cared back to them. God knows where she is and he saw how she got there. Always remember what ever man saws he will reap and will reap more than he sowed.
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